Meeting
People With The Power To Hire
In this phase of the process, it is
crucial to meet the person who has the power to hire you. Determining who that
person is and getting an appointment requires a well-planned strategy. In the
following material I will show you how to determine who has the power to hire
you, how to get past secretaries, what to say when you reach your target
person, how to get appointments, what to say in the appointment, and how to
follow up.
Determining Who Has the Power to
Hire
The
person with the power to hire you normally holds a position that would be one
or two levels above you in the department or functional area you have focused
on. Often this person will be a department head. When calling, ask for the name
of the person whose job title indicates that he or she has the power to hire
you. With very small companies, you might first contact the president or vice
president if that seems appropriate. If that person does not hire people at
your level, get a referral to the person who does. When you can, however, avoid
speaking to the president, since that person is always the most difficult
person to reach.
Work
hard, however, to determine precisely who the person is who could hire you for
the type of position you want.
Once
you have your list of organizations, begin identifying the people who do the
hiring. Getting their names is easy because nearly every business has a
receptionist. Call and ask for the person’s name, being sure to get the correct
spelling and title. Most receptionists are so busy that they won’t bother to
ask you why you want to know.
Occasionally,
the receptionist will not know the proper person, or will hastily connect you
with personnel. Don’t be startled, just ask your question again with confidence
and assertiveness. If the receptionist or personnel clerk asks why you are
calling, the most simple response is, “I have some material to send to your
purchasing manager.” Typical responses might be like these:
Receptionist: Dearborn Insurance, may I help you?
Steve: Hello, can you give me the name of your claims manager?
Receptionist: Yes, that would be John Yaeger.
Steve: Would you spell his last name, please?
Receptionist: Sure, Y A E G E R.
Steve: Thank you very much.
v
Receptionist: Medico, may I help you?
Sally: Hello, can you give me the name of your IS manager?
Receptionist: IS?
Sally: Yes, information systems. Do you have someone in charge of
computer programming?
Receptionist: I think you probably want Bob Benson.
Sally: What is his title?
Receptionist: He’s vice president of operations, but I think he’s in charge of
our three programmers and our computer system.
Sally: Okay, thank you very much.
v
Receptionist: Continental.
Kevin: Can you give me the name of your purchasing manager?
Receptionist: Just a moment.
Personnel: Personnel.
Kevin: Can you give me the name of your purchasing manager?
Personnel: That would be James Townsend.
Kevin: Thank you.
v
Receptionist: Malco, may I help you?
Holly: Could you please give me the name of your advertising manager?
Receptionist: Just a moment.
Personnel: Personnel.
Holly: Could you please give me the name of your advertising manager?
Personnel: What is this concerning?
Holly: I have some material to send and I want to make sure it gets to
the right person. Could you give me the name of your advertising manager?
Personnel: That would be Janet Lynn.
Holly: What is her title?
Personnel: She’s director of marketing.
Holly: Thank you.
Occasionally
you’ll find a firm that is so secretive they won’t give out anyone’s name. If
the organization has a high enough priority for you, there is always a way to
find out who you need to talk to. Usually such firms are fairly large. By
putting all your contacts together, you should be able to identify someone who
works there or who knows about the organization.
One
client who was facing such a difficulty came up with an effective solution.
When a receptionist refused to divulge the information, he would respond, “Who
should I contact later if I want additional information?” He then asked for
that person’s area of responsibility. By calling that person he was virtually
always able to call later and get the name of the person with the power to hire
him.
Another
possible solution is to call before 8 a.m., between noon and 1 p.m., or after 5
p.m. At these times a less experienced person is likely to be on the
switchboard and will simply give you the desired information.
Whether
your list has 70 or 250 organizations, I would recommend going through the
entire list in two or three days to get the names of all the hiring
authorities. You can then check off that activity as being completed. You’ll
also need the names of hiring authorities when you send the list of your 70
preferred organizations to friends and relatives.
Calling the Person With the Power
To Hire
Once
you know the names of the people with the power to hire in your organizations,
start setting up appointments. This part is more challenging than just getting
the names. Your first task will be getting past the person’s secretary. One of
the secretary’s duties is to protect the boss from unnecessary calls, and some
exercise this duty with a vengeance. Don’t be afraid, though; you can get past
even the toughest secretary. Once you get to your potential boss, you must
present yourself quickly and ask for an appointment. With a polished opening,
you should be able to get appointments 40–80% of the time.
Getting Past Secretaries
When
talking to a secretary, present yourself as a confident businessperson with
legitimate business reasons for calling. Give your name immediately since the
secretary will invariably ask for it. You’ll also sound more authoritative. If,
after trying all the styles given below, you just can’t get past the secretary,
try calling very early in the morning or after 5:30 p.m. A busy executive will
often answer the phone when the secretary is not there. Of course, in these
days of voicemail, this strategy does not always work. One of the techniques
below will usually work:
Receptionist: Glasgow and Associates.
Polly: I’d like to speak to Marilyn Shelton.
Receptionist: Just a moment, please.
Secretary: Marilyn Shelton’s office.
Polly: This is Polly Preston. I’d like to speak with Marilyn Shelton.
Secretary: What is this concerning?
Polly: Don Drummer of Polycorp suggested I speak with her.
or
I
have some advertising concepts I would like to discuss with her.
or
I
have some personal matters to discuss with her.
or
I
have some business matters to discuss with her.
or
I sent her a marketing letter and indicated
I’d be calling today.
Secretary: Just a moment, I’ll ring her office.
Avoid Return Calls
If
the person is out when you call (or so the secretary says), avoid leaving your
phone number. Say that you will be in and out yourself and ask for the best
time to call back. It is much better for you to initiate contact. If the
employer returns your call, you may be caught unprepared, perhaps even coming
out of the shower. If you have been calling several people, you may not even
recognize the person’s name at first. This can be very embarrassing.
Furthermore, by leaving your name and number you lose control of the situation.
Once you leave your name and number, you are basically obligated to give the
person two or three days to return your call. If the person never calls, you’ve
lost three days. When you finally do get through, more days will have passed
since the person read your marketing letter. The dialogue below illustrates how
to handle this situation.
Secretary: Janet Spurrier’s office.
John: This is John Bradley. I’d like to speak with Janet Spurrier.
Secretary: I’m sorry, she’s in a meeting now. Can I have her return your
call?
John: No, I’ll be out most of the day. What do you think would be a
good time to reach her?
Secretary: That’s hard to say, but probably about 3:30.
John: Thank you.
Voice Mail
Now
that voice mail has become so popular, new problems have arisen for job
seekers. Often when you call the switchboard and ask for the specific person,
the next thing you know you are listening to that person’s voice mail message.
Voice mail has both an advantage and a disadvantage. The advantage is that you
can call as often as you like and no one will know the difference. I would
recommend that you continue calling until you reach the person. If the call is
long distance, you can usually be sure that if the person is available he or
she will answer within two rings. If you don’t get an answer within two rings,
simply hang up. To do that, of course, you need the person’s direct extension.
Once you know the person has voice mail, I would ask the receptionist for that
number. Usually it will be given to you.
The
disadvantage of voice mail is that some people who have it never answer their
phone. They never take calls, they only return them. If you get one of those
people, eventually you will have to leave a message and hope the person calls
back. When leaving a message, sound professional and give the person a good
reason to call you back.
What Do You Say After Hello?
After
your future boss answers, you have 20–30 seconds to sell yourself. A prepared
script can give you added confidence and just the right words to make a great
first impression. Since it is so easy to say “no,” make it easy for the
employer to say “yes” when you ask for a brief appointment.
To
sell yourself, you must quickly summarize your background and present evidence
that you are a highly desirable person. Upon concluding your pitch, ask for an
appointment. Ask to “get together” or have a “brief meeting,” but never call it
an interview. You are not seeking a
traditional job interview.
Practice
by first making a few of these calls to low-priority firms. Your voice should
convey self-confidence and enthusiasm. Your words should convey potential.
Naturally, if you are reading from a script, you won’t want the employer to
sense this. Practice until you speak in a normal conversational tone. After a
few calls you should keep the script by you for reference, but you should begin
varying your words slightly each time to provide a sense of spontaneity. You
might even record your first few calls to check your enthusiasm level. Record
your portion of the call on a portable recorder. Be sure to project enough
enthusiasm so that it is conveyed to the person at the other end of the line.
In
the first sample script below, a recent college grad is making a cold call. It
takes only about ten seconds to complete the call. Notice that the introduction
is brief but sufficient for the purpose.
Mr. Crenshaw, this is
Brian Dawlar. I just graduated from the University of Washington with a degree
in business, emphasizing marketing. I realize you may not have any openings at
this time, but I would appreciate setting up a time when we could meet for just
15 minutes.
In
the next example, Sandra is reminding Mrs. Garner that a marketing letter was
sent. Sandra is hoping Mrs. Garner remembers, but even if she does not, Sandra
will still provide a brief summary of her background and then ask for an
appointment. If the person has not received the letter, don’t tell the person
that you will send another copy of the letter—once you have the person on the
line, go for the appointment. Summarize the points from the marketing letter
and then ask for a 15-minute appointment.
The
example below demonstrates how a marketing letter works. It is followed by the
script from Sandra’s phone call.
Roberta Garner
District Sales Manager
Salvo Corp.
1878 116th N.E.
Bellevue, Washington 98004
Dear Ms. Garner:
I have a strong sales personality.
During six years as a French and history teacher I have sold programs and ideas
to school administrators, teachers, parents, and community leaders. Because of
my sales ability, and a desire to achieve a high income, I am now looking at
sales opportunities.
I am a high-energy person with real
initiative. I make things happen. I am quick to take on responsibility and I
succeed at whatever I put my heart into. The people I know in sales all say I
will be successful. I believe them.
I will call you next week to set up
a time when we might meet briefly.
Sincerely,
Sandra
Bennett
Having
read the marketing letter you can see why Sandra is confident as she calls
Garner and seeks a brief appointment. Normally marketing letters do not mention
the desire for high income. Sandra mentioned her high income expectations
because sales people are expected to be highly motivated by money and also to
demonstrate her self-confidence.
Sandra: Mrs. Garner? Hi, this is Sandra Bennett. I
wanted to confirm that you received the letter I sent a few days ago describing
my teaching background in French and history...Good...I’ve been teaching for
the last six years, but all my sales friends tell me I’d be a natural in sales.
I realize you may not have any openings at this time, but I would appreciate
arranging a time to get-together for perhaps 15 minutes. I’d like to tell you a
little more about my background and at the same time learn about some of the
directions Salvo is headed. Would early next week work for you?
Garner: Well, I don’t have any openings, and I
don’t have 15 minutes, but I suppose I could meet for ten minutes.
Read
Sandra’s spiel again and notice what she did. As she introduced herself she
mentioned her letter which had described her background in teaching French and
history. Although teaching French and history are not prerequisites for a
career in sales, she mentioned her teaching because it would act as a “cue” for
Garner and help Garner recall the letter. After all, it isn’t every day that a
sales manager gets a letter from a French teacher. Providing a cue is an
important part of making the marketing letter and the phone call result in an
appointment.
Garner’s
response is very typical. Although she has no openings, she is still willing to
meet Sandra, in large part because the request was so reasonable. Notice,
however, that Garner did not feel compelled to give Sandra a full 15 minutes. A
busy person, Garner quickly determined that she could spare only ten minutes.
That’s okay with Sandra, she’s got her appointment.
Marketing
letters that are sent to local people should go out on a Friday. You can be
quite certain that a letter you mail on a Friday will arrive on Monday. To
allow for a delay in the postal system, or in case the person was out of the
office on Monday, you should begin calling people Tuesday afternoon. If you
send out 10–20 marketing letters each week, that means Tuesday and Wednesday
will be your heavy telephone days. By waiting until Tuesday to call, you can be
quite sure that the person will have received it, but not so much time will
have elapsed that the person is likely to have forgotten it. If you send your
marketing letter any other day of the week, you will not be so certain about
its arrival time. Also, by beginning your calls on Tuesday, you have the rest
of the week to call the people that you were not able to reach on Tuesday and
Wednesday. Even those you reach on Friday should not have forgotten you.
The
cue you mention in the phone call is an important way to help a person recall
having seen your marketing letter. It is unlikely that the person will remember
all of the details of the letter. All you are really hoping for is that the
person will have some memory of having read the letter. The backgrounds of some
people are so outstanding, and their letters so well written, that some
employers are actually anticipating the call. For most people, however, that
will not be the case. You should feel good if the person merely indicates that
he or she saw it. But trust me, the letter will have had an impact and it will
help you get an appointment.
In
Sandra’s case, the cue is not a selling point, nor was it intended to be one.
She is not implying that this sales manager should want to meet her merely
because she taught French and history. Those points were only made because
Sandra wanted Garner to remember her letter. The selling point in Sandra’s
spiel is that her sales friends all think she would be great.
There
are some cases in which a marketing letter may not be necessary. In the example
below, Jim Thomas decided not to use a marketing letter. He has a strong
background in sales and is accustomed to setting up sales appointments over the
phone. By dispensing with the marketing letter he saves time and money, and
he’ll end up with just as high a success rate as he would if he sent a
marketing letter. Anyone who feels confident in their phone skills should give
consideration to skipping the marketing letter and simply making direct contact
with the hiring authority.
Hi Mr. Bradley, this is
Jim Thomas. I’ve been selling radio advertising for the last six years and I’m
seriously considering changing stations. I’ve been in the top 15% in sales for
the last three years. I’m not in a rush to leave, but I would like to set a
time when we could get together for 15 minutes or so.
Each
of the scripts presented here as examples can be said in 10-20 seconds. When
you’ve just reached a stranger on the phone, and the most the person has said
is “Hello” or “This is Crenshaw,” twenty seconds is quite a long time.
Below
is an example of a more complete script where the applicant is going to ask for
a 15-minute appointment. The employer will respond by saying he doesn’t have
any openings. That will be the most
common response, even though you will have just said something like, “I realize
you may have no openings at this time, but I would like to meet briefly with
you for perhaps 15 minutes.” Either employers don’t hear that statement, or
they choose to ignore it. Those who ignore it do so, I believe, because they
know that by stating that there are no openings, 90% of all job seekers will
lose interest in coming in. By continuing to seek a meeting you’ll demonstrate
that you’re not like all the rest.
The
key to the success of this technique is that you are making such a reasonable
request. Initially, you ask for 15 minutes. If that does not succeed, you make
a second request, but drop the time down to ten minutes. When asking a third
time you would ask either for just five minutes or for two minutes just to
introduce yourself. The request for either five minutes or two minutes would
typically come after providing a short one to two minute summary of your
background. Notice how skillfully this is done by Bob Lee in the following
example:
Jay: This is John Jay.
Lee: Mr. Jay, this is Bob Lee. I
was calling to confirm that you received my letter which describes my 15 years
in purchasing, including purchasing all the steel, glass, and concrete for the
Columbia Center in Seattle.
Jay: Yes, I believe I saw that
yesterday.
Lee: I’m glad you had a chance to
review it. I do have a strong purchasing background. For Maynard and Wyatt
Construction I implemented a very effective just-in-time program. I realize you
may not have any openings at this moment, but I did want to set up a time when
we might meet for 15 minutes or so. I’d like to tell you a little more about my
background, and at the same time learn more about some of the directions you’re
moving in. Would early next week work for you?
Jay: Bob, I’m sure you have a very
good background, but I simply don’t have any opening at this time and don’t
anticipate any for at least six months.
Lee: I can certainly understand
that. I really didn’t expect that you’d have any openings. What I did want to
do is to just set up a time, even ten minutes, when we might meet briefly.
Would late next week work for you?
Jay: Bob, I just don’t have any
openings. I’m in the middle of developing my budget and it just wouldn’t be
worth my time or your time.
Lee: While I have you on the line
Mr. Jay, perhaps I could just take a couple minutes to tell you more about my
background.
(Gives a two minute summary)
As you can
see Mr. Jay, I do have a strong purchasing background. And I really do
understand your situation. It’s always helpful to me, however, when I can meet
a person face-to-face. It enables them to remember me better in case something
would unexpectedly develop. Or you may hear of something elsewhere and be able
to refer me. Could I stop by next week to introduce myself. I promise I
wouldn’t take more than two minutes of your time.
Jay: Well, I suppose we could do
that. Stop over at my office at 11:55 on Friday.
Your
two minute summary should be rehearsed. In essence it is your answer to the
question, “Tell me about yourself.” It is also known as a “two-minute sell,”
that spiel you have rehearsed so many times that you can offer it at a moment’s
notice. It is designed to provide the person with a sense of your value. It
should be heavy on the benefits you can bring to the organization. Although I
call it a two minute summary it can be as short as a minute. The key point is
to provide just enough additional information that when you ask once more for a
brief appointment, the person is now more likely to give it to you.
If
you ask for just two minutes to introduce yourself, the assumption is that such
a visit would take place in the lobby of the organization or in some other
waiting area.
The
next script is one prepared by a chief financial officer who was looking for
another CFO position. In fact, this person helped pioneer the use of marketing
letters and the telephone script. He wrote the script with the idea that he
would be prepared for any objections that an employer might raise. He was
calling presidents, the toughest people to get in to see. He had a very high
success rate of about 30%. When calling presidents, a success rate of 15–20% is
excellent.
Terry’s
script helped him clarify what he would say if various objections were raised.
He had no intention of memorizing the script. He merely wanted to prepare a
strong statement so people would be willing to meet him. He was not trying to
get them excited about meeting him, he merely wanted them to be willing to meet him.
Terry’s
specialty was finance. During his years in the field he had taken three
companies public, meaning he arranged their initial public offering. Many young
companies desire to “go public” at some point because that is how many have
gained real wealth. Terry knew that most of the presidents he spoke to would
not be looking for a CFO at that moment. Yet he wanted to meet as many
presidents as possible, and he needed a way to make them interested enough to
meet him. Since most CFOs have never taken even one company public, that was
going to be his “in.”
Tough: This is Mr. Tough.
Terry: Mr. Tough, hi, this is
Terry Pierce. I sent you a letter last week which highlights my qualifications
in finance. I’ve been involved in public offerings, debt restructuring, systems
development, and establishing credit lines. I’d like to meet with you for
perhaps 15 minutes to further discuss how my experience could be useful.
Tough: We’re having severe
cash-flow problems and we’re definitely not hiring. There’s really no need to
meet.
Terry: I don’t envy your
situation. I’ve been there myself. One thing I noticed, in many instances when
cash is tight, everyone concentrates on cash while no one concentrates on the
day-to-day operations of the business. I could take a lot of the day-to-day
pressure off you so you could focus your energy on business. If nothing else, I
could give you some ideas on how to avoid certain pitfalls that I’m sure you’re
going to face. Should we meet the latter part of the week?
Tough: I’m really busy and I’m not sure it would be any benefit to
either of us to meet.
Terry: Mr. Tough, are you planning
to come out with a public offering or do you intend to restructure your debt as
part of your solution to your cash problem?
Tough: Well, our long-term goal is
to go public after the cash situation is resolved and we are considering a
complete restructure of our banking relationships.
Terry: These are going to be
exciting and trying times for your company. I’d like to make a couple of
comments regarding offerings. First, you need to accept that it will cost you
10-15% of the gross offering, in offering-related expenses. Additionally, the
two most important decisions are going to be the counsel you use and the
brokerage house you choose. You need a strong counsel that can control the
counsel used by the underwriters. It would probably make sense to restructure
your debt first to show the financial strength of the company before taking it
public. Let’s get together for 15 minutes so I can explain more about the process
and my experience.
Tough: All right, let’s do that. Let’s meet at 9:00
on Friday.
Terry: Great, I’m looking forward to meeting you.
You
see that Terry was prepared for just about anything. Besides having an
excellent background, his success in meeting so many presidents can be
attributed largely to his ability to counter each argument and his ability to
get a president to realize there might be some benefit to meeting him.
When
you ask for appointments, avoid using the phrase “I was wondering if” as in “I
was wondering if we could meet next week?” Instead, simply tell the person what
you want by stating, “I would like to meet briefly with you next week.” Or, ask
a simple but direct question such as, “Could we meet early next week?” By
asking in either of these last two ways you come across as more confident and
professional.
Ideally
the person with the power to hire will immediately arrange a time. This happens
surprisingly often. You must also be prepared, however, for any objections the
person might raise. The example below illustrates my point. Objections are
often raised, so you must be prepared.
Employer: We won’t be hiring for at least six months.
(How does she know? An
employee may quit tomorrow.)
You: I can understand that.
Actually I’m not in a hurry to leave my present job. It would certainly be
beneficial to me if we could meet for just ten minutes.
Employer: I’m really tied up for the next three weeks.
You: That’s fine. Would the Monday
following that week work for you?
Employer: Probably you should go through personnel and fill out an
application.
You: I’d be glad to at the
appropriate time. But really my goal is just to meet you and introduce myself.
Employer: Right now we’re laying off people in your field.
You: I can appreciate your concern.
I know the economy is rough right now. I think that makes it even more
important that we get together. My company went through a similar situation a
year ago. My money‑saving ideas helped turn the company around.
Employer: I really don’t think you have the right experience.
You: It is a bit unusual, but
really, the problems I’ve dealt with are not much different than the ones you
are undoubtedly facing. My new procedures at Silco created a 7% increase in
productivity.
It’s unlikely you will face all of these
objections from one person, but be prepared for them. Make it easy for the
person to say “yes.” Asking for only ten minutes is a very reasonable request.
Most people can spare at least that much time. And because you have much to
offer, the appointment will prove mutually beneficial. At the very least, such
a meeting can give the employer a pleasant and relaxing ten minutes. Although I
have just stated that such an appointment will be mutually beneficial, you
should not use the term as some have: “I think we’ll find it mutually
beneficial.” Such a statement is a bit presumptuous and will usually be viewed
as such by managers.
Below
is an outline of the procedure you should follow when making your phone calls.
1. Speak to the person with power to
hire and ask for a 15-minute meeting. Indicate that you realize there may be no
openings.
2.
If the person responds by saying there are no openings and therefore doesn’t
want to meet with you, explain again that you understand there are no openings,
but that you want only ten minutes to talk about the field and your background.
3.
If the person counters by saying there is a freeze on hiring, or gives some
other reason why he thinks a visit would be a waste of time for both of you,
say something like this: “I can sure appreciate the tough economic climate in
this area. Since I have you on the phone, let me just take a minute to tell you
a little more about myself.” Then give a one- to two-minute summary of your
strengths and experience.
4.
When you finish your summary, ask once more for an appointment. Ask for a
five-minute appointment, or just two minutes for an introduction. You might ask
for five minutes in one of the following ways:
Mr.
Belquez, I can certainly understand your situation. I’m working at this time,
and what I’d really like to do is meet you and tell you a little more about
myself so when openings do develop you’ll be able to keep me in mind. I promise
I won’t take more than five minutes of your time.
v
Ms. Baum, that gives you
just a sketch of my experience and abilities. It’s certainly not uncommon these
days for a company to have a hiring freeze, and I can understand your
reluctance to take time out of your busy schedule. But it would be very helpful
to me if we could meet for just five minutes.
v
Mr. Baker, as you can
see, I have a strong background in purchasing. It would really help me if you
could take five minutes to see me. And I really do mean just five minutes.
At that point you will have asked three times
for an appointment. Don’t give up with just two tries; many people relent on
the third request. The first two requests were based on your merit. You’re a
very capable person and you requested an appointment because most people in
management continually have their eyes open for new talent. Make the third
request on the basis of a favor. When you appeal to their desire to help
others, many people will consent. In the examples above the person asked for
five minutes. You could also ask for just two minutes to introduce yourself
while standing in the employer’s lobby or waiting room. Then your request might
sound like this:
Ms. Carter I
understand how busy you are. I’ve just found it so useful to meet people face
to face because they remember me better. Could I stop by some time this week to
personally hand you my resume and introduce myself? I promise I won’t take more
than two minutes of your time.
v
Mr. Castille I
realize you just don’t have any openings at this time, but as you can see I do
have a strong customer service background. I would really like to introduce
myself and personally hand you my resume. I promise it won’t take more than two
minutes. Is there a good time that I could stop by on Thursday or Friday?
Then,
when you do meet the person you might say something like, “Ms. Juarez, I
appreciate your seeing me. Perhaps I could tell you one reason why you should
remember me. Basically I am . . .” Your spiel should take under two minutes.
You would then shake hands again, thank the person, and leave. The impact you
have just made will be based on how you carried yourself. In two minutes the
person could realize you are confident, energetic, enthusiastic, upbeat, and
professional. If the whole thing is over in under two minutes, the person will
be very pleased and very surprised that you really meant what you said—that you
merely wanted to introduce yourself.
5.
If you still don’t get an appointment, you may yet get some valuable
information if you hold the person on the phone another two to three minutes.
Remember, you worked hard to get this hiring person on the phone, so don’t give
up too easily. Consider these: “Mr. Bledsoe, when you do have a position open, what can I do to make sure I’ll be
considered?” “Mr. Bledsoe, when you have openings in your marketing department,
what do you look for in candidates?” “Mr. Bledsoe, I’ve briefly described my
background. Is it the type of background you’d be looking for?” In virtually
all situation you should ask, “If someone quit, would they be replaced?” If the
answer is no then you can be certain that there is little value in meeting this
person. As you are getting responses to your questions, jot notes down on the
back of your 4 x 6 card. Also ask what you can do to be sure to learn of any
openings that occur.
6.
In addition, you could ask about the size of the department, particularly the
number of people who do your type of work. Ask about turnover. If no one has
left in the last four years, that certainly tells you something. You may want
to assign that company a lower priority because of the unlikelihood of an
opening. Or you may give it a higher priority because low turnover often
indicates employee satisfaction. You’re the best judge of priority.
7.
By this time you’ve probably convinced the person that you are a highly
desirable employee. The person may know of something happening in other
companies. Do not ask the person if she knows of any openings. Instead, try
this: “Mrs. Kelsoe, I think you have a pretty good feel for my background. What
other companies do you think I should be contacting?” The reason for not asking
about specific openings is that referrals are more important to you than knowledge
of specific openings. And besides, the phrasing of the question will surely
cause her to tell you about any openings she knows of. If the person says
“Nothing comes to mind right now,” she may need some help to jog her memory.
Your response might be, “Basically, I’m looking for a progressive firm like
yours in the electronics industry. I realize you may not know of specific
openings, but your advice on good companies would sure be helpful.” If she
names some companies, ask for the name of a person to contact in each. Then
ask, “Do you mind if I say you suggested I call?” Nearly always you will be
given permission. You would simply say, “Beverly Kelsoe at Utalco suggested I
call you. During the last five years, I’ve been purchasing microcircuits. I realize
you may not have any openings, but I would like to set up a time when I could
meet with you for about 15 minutes.”
8.
Thank the person for his or her time. If no appointment was made, indicate that
you’ll be sending your resume, and that you’ll be staying in touch. If the
person asks you to simply talk to his or her secretary, respond with a thank
you. This employer is implying that the secretary will know in advance if any
positions become available. Send a brief thank‑you note with your resume
to confirm your appreciation.
Your
goal is still to get in and see as many hiring authorities as possible. A
personal meeting always creates a much stronger and more lasting impression
than just talking by phone. But think of it this way: if you’ve been unable to make an appointment, virtually no one else is going to, either. When
you got the person on the phone, you made the most of it and sold yourself. The
employer was impressed. Once the person receives your thank‑you note,
resume, and a follow‑up phone call, you’ll undoubtedly be one of the
first to be informed when a position becomes available.
Your
primary goal in using this strategy is to locate job openings in the hidden job
market. While personal meetings with employers increase your chances of finding
such positions, your telephone conversation, resume, thank-you note and
follow-up are the next best things.
Let’s
look at an additional benefit of this telephone strategy. During a period of
high unemployment, you may get appointments only 25–40% of the time, compared
to the 40–80% rate most experience during better economic times. When you don’t
get an appointment, chances are great that it will be because there really are
no openings, and when vacancies occur, they are not filled. So an appointment really
would have been a waste of your time. While the employer is saving only ten
minutes, you’ll be saving the two to three hours it would take to research the
organization, drive there, meet the person, and return home. When you get a
turndown, be thankful that you just saved yourself three hours, and then go
ahead and call the next person on your list.
In
your phone calls, use humor whenever possible. My clients report that making
the employer laugh has significantly increased their ability to get valuable
information, even when they do not get in to see the person.
Tips On Getting Appointments
Despite their
qualifications, and their telephone and persuasion skills, no one gets
appointments 100% of the time. It helps to understand some of the reasons you
won’t get an appointment. Although I have seen a few people achieve a 90–95%
success rate in getting appointments, most people will get appointments 40–80%
of the time.
There
are many reasons why a person won’t meet with you. Those within your control might
include the following possibilities: your marketing letter was not well
written; your background was not impressive or was not sold well; you sounded
nervous on the phone; your voice lacked a sense of confidence and conviction
that the person really should meet you; you were not persistent to ask a second
or third time for an appointment; or you sounded pushy when asking that second
or third time. You have some control over these factors.
Then
there are factors over which you have no control. For example, the organization
may be in the midst of a hiring freeze; there may be no openings and the person
knows it’s highly unlikely that anyone will be quitting; the person may have
just laid off people and is fearful of losing her own job; people have been laid
off and now the manager is trying to do her own job plus parts of two others
and is exhausted; it’s a bad time and the person is extremely busy; you caught
the person on her worst day in the last six months; or the person you talked to
is an egocentric person who doesn’t like helping people.
After
you’ve asked a third time for an appointment and have been turned down, always
ask if the position would be filled if someone quit. If you get a definite no,
or a hesitant yes, it may tell you that the organization is having financial
difficulties. After hearing that those who leave will not be replaced, ask how
long the situation is expected to continue. The answer will give you further
insight and will help you determine how to prioritize the organization. Put
your new-found information on your 4 x 6 card.
I’ve
suggested that asking for a shorter meeting time is one way to overcome an
employer’s resistance to meet with you. That is, you start by asking for 15
minutes, then reduce that time to 10 minutes, and reduce the time again to 5 or
2 minutes if the person you’re calling still hasn’t agreed to meet with you.
The idea is to keep making extremely reasonable requests. It’s hard for a
person to turn down a reasonable request.
It
does not matter if the person was ecstatic about meeting you when you called,
or could barely be talked into it. My clients have met with people who were
enthusiastic about meeting and then were completely uninterested and unhelpful
during the appointment. Others resisted, but then were very helpful and
genuinely tried to figure out how the person might find a position in their
organization. One client met with a person who, after being curt on the
telephone, opened up and was very cordial during the face-to-face meeting. They
spoke for a half hour, and the person even made calls on the client’s behalf.
Also,
dropping in on people should not be completely ruled out as a strategy. I know
of the president of a $100 million company who, by nature, is very reserved. In
fact, he spends nearly an entire day locked up in his office handling
paperwork. Yet, when people drop in and ask for him, he often meets briefly
with them in a reception area. He is not unusual in this regard. By telling
this story I am not necessarily recommending a strategy based just on cold
calls, but there are people who have made this approach work.
When
speaking to the person with the power to hire, it often helps to refer to
others with whom you’ve met. You might say something like, “I’d very much like
to meet briefly with you. I was up at Fluke and Eldec last week (two well-known
Northwest firms) and I hoped I might also meet with you.” You could also
mention the names of the people, as well as the names of their companies. These
people may know each other or know of each other. And it’s an impressive little
tidbit to indicate that these other people felt good enough about you to let
you visit them.
One
of my clients was convinced that his energy level and self-confidence were the
two most important factors in his getting appointments. He also did better when
he treated the process of making calls as a game. When he told himself that
there were plenty of other fish out there and that it didn’t really matter if
he got a meeting with any particular employer, he had a higher success rate.
Also, when he made two or three good appointments in a short time, he kept
making calls even though his plan may have been to stop earlier. When he was on
a roll, he wanted to make the most out of his positive responses and the
momentum they gave him. This, too, increased his success rate.
The
strategy of seeking brief meetings should result in appointments 40–80% of the
time, except during periods of high unemployment. If you’re not getting
appointments 40% of the time, however, you’re probably not using the telephone
effectively.
Also,
if you’re trying to meet with presidents, you must be very sharp on the phone.
Even then your expected success rate with these people will be only 10–30%.
Presidents are clearly the most difficult people to meet. That’s why you should
avoid speaking to presidents unless they are truly the only ones who have the
power to hire you to do what you want to do.
When
it comes to meeting the person with power to hire, remember: you’re the one
making the special effort. You have offered to drive to the business, pay for
parking, walk to the building, and wait until the person is available—all for
just fifteen minutes of his or her time. You may have spent two hours just
preparing for the appointment. In addition, you’ve done all this so the person
with the power to hire can experience an enjoyable, relaxing time talking with
you.
Tips On Cold Calling
Cold
calling—that is, dropping in unannounced to see the person with the power to
hire—can be particularly effective if you are seeking retail positions or other
positions in which the person with power to hire is not protected by a
gatekeeper. In a retail environment the store manager is almost never insulated
by a secretary. What’s more, the manager likely spends time out on the floor
selling and handling management responsibilities. That means if you walk in
during a slow period when there are few customers around, you could easily get
five minutes of the manager’s time.
Although
larger retail chains often have a personnel department, most hiring is actually
done by the store manager in smaller stores, or by a department manager in
large stores.
If
you want to use cold calling as one of your strategies, begin by plotting out
on a map the locations of the stores you are interested in. Then, based on your
knowledge of the industry, determine what times during the day are likely to be
slow for those businesses. Restaurants, for example, tend to be slow from 10–11
a.m., and then from 2–5 p.m. Most retail stores are slow for the first two
hours after opening, between 2 and 5 p.m., and then again just before closing
time. It’s important to talk to the manager when the store is not busy in order
to get even five minutes of his or her time. This advice would also hold true for
banking if you were visiting a branch.
I
would suggest going into each store and scoping it out. Make observations about
how clean it is and how well the merchandise is displayed. If you can, listen
to a salesperson help a customer. That will give you a sense of how well
trained the sales staff is. Then, when a salesperson approaches you to help you
as a customer, quickly explain why you are in the store. Ask if it’s a good
store or chain to work for. Then ask for the name of the manager and ask to be introduced.
If the manager is out on the floor, you will probably be immediately
introduced. If the manager is in the back room, it may take a few minutes. In
most cases, the manager will see you. If not, you would ask when a good time to
return might be.
You
will most likely speak to the manager while standing up, so practice your spiel
while standing. Quickly describe your background in retail or describe your
strong interest in a retail career. Ask whether the store will be adding staff.
If not, confirm that people who leave will be replaced. Sell yourself and then
leave a copy of your resume. If the manager gives you an application to fill
out, accept it and say you’ll return it in a few days when you come back for
another visit.
Lower-level
retail positions are usually filled quickly, so it is important to stay in
touch with the manager. Stop by every few days and simply ask if there will be
any openings soon. After the initial visit, you’ll take up less than a minute
of time each time you stop by. After three visits, you might call once or twice
in a two-week period to find out about openings. After that you might alternate
between calling on the phone and visiting in person. This process takes time,
but this is how people in retail get hired.
Produce 40 Times The Impact
Meeting
a hiring authority in person has many times the impact of merely sending a
resume. A resume, no matter how good it is, is just a piece of paper. You will
always be more impressive in person than on paper.
Your
goal is to meet hiring authorities in person, even if it is for only ten
minutes. Lasting impressions are made from person‑to‑person
contact, not from resumes or even telephone conversations. The person meeting
you will associate your name with a face, a voice, a personality.
In
each meeting, create a lasting, positive impression so that when a job opening
occurs, you’ll be the first person considered. Suppose five weeks ago you spent
15 minutes with Mrs. Johnson, a key hiring authority in one of your most
desired companies. No opening existed at the time, but you had a pleasant
conversation. You learned more about her organization and you shared some of
your accomplishments. Mrs. Johnson told you she was impressed with your
background, and even mentioned three companies she felt you should look at. Two
days later Mrs. Johnson received a nice thank‑you note, and she once
again remembered you and recalled your potential. She also felt good about
herself because she knew she had been helpful. Three weeks later you called her
and had a one‑minute conversation asking if there had been any job
developments. Not surprisingly, there had been none.
Two
weeks after your call, however, someone informed Mrs. Johnson that he was
leaving the company for a better position. What could Mrs. Johnson do? She
could have informed personnel immediately and asked them to place an ad. She
could also delve into her file cabinet and review the hundred or so resumes she
has accumulated over the last six months. Instead, she thought of you. She
picked up the telephone and called you for an interview.
Consider
for a moment why the strategy of meeting hiring authorities works so well.
During the first twelve weeks after mailing your marketing letter, you will
have eight high-quality contacts. The average job seeker has one low-quality
contact—a mediocre resume. These eight high-quality contacts produce at least
40 times the impact of mailing a typical resume. The eight contacts include: 1)
mailing a marketing letter; 2) following up with a phone call and obtaining an
appointment; 3) meeting the person face-to-face; 4) leaving a copy of your
resume; 5) sending a thank-you note that evening; 6) following up with a
one-minute call three weeks later; 7) a second short call four weeks later; and
8) mailing an interesting article four weeks after that. From that point on, a
call would be made or an article sent every five to seven weeks.
Going
through the strategy step by step will show you how this combined approach has
at least 40 times the impact of a resume.
An
excellent first impression is created when the person reads your marketing
letter. The marketing letter is a nice touch because it is different from what
employers are used to receiving. While your background may not be so powerful
that the employer calls you on the phone immediately, a favorable impression
has been created, nonetheless. The person will notice that you’ve indicated
that you will call in a few days. While not necessarily excited about taking
your call, particularly if there are no suitable openings, the person will
probably speak with you. You may have to call several times because such people
are often in meetings, out of the office, or out of town. But when you speak to
the person you are going to come across as very confident and capable. Most
people will agree to meet with you.
When
you meet the person, you will have prepared a monologue. You’ll use it if the
first thing the person says is, “How can I help you?” Frequently the person
will not even remember why you are there. The person may only know that your
name is on his schedule for a fifteen-minute appointment. The “How can I help
you?” question, or any one of its derivatives, are cordial ways of getting down
to business right away. By having a five- to seven-minute summary of your
background and strengths prepared, you’ll be ready to sell yourself. When you
leave the meeting, this person should be thinking, “If I had an opening, this
is the type of person who could really help us.”
As
you leave, you will generally give the person your resume unless the person had
already asked for it. However, some people prefer not to bring a resume with
them. Instead they tailor the resume to the situation after they get home. If
you are willing to take the time to tailor each resume, then leaving your
resume at home is a good strategy.
That
evening you would compose a personal thank-you note. Although many notes are no
more than four lines, they can be considerably longer if you want to supply
additional information about your background or strengths. The person who met
with you will receive the thank-you note a day or two later and think favorably
of you once more.
Three
weeks later you will call and reintroduce yourself so that the person will
remember the conversation, if not your name. Then you will ask if there have
been any developments (which there probably have not) and then state once more
your interest in the organization. There is no need to feel that you are
impinging on this person’s time because you will take only a minute. Your call
might go like this:
Hi Mr. Johnson, this is Bill Baker. We
met three weeks ago when I visited you for a few minutes. I’m the one
interested in webmaster positions. I just wanted to find out if there have been
any developments since that time.
Then five weeks later you will make yet another
one-minute call. While you are only taking up one minute of the employer’s
time, it has probably taken you at least ten minutes to prepare and make
several calls before getting through. That’s okay, though. You are making an
impression.
For
your next follow-up, I recommend finding an article that your hiring
authorities would enjoy reading but are fairly unlikely to have already seen.
You would simply write, “Thought you might be interested,” and then sign your
name. Once again this person will think of you and realize that you are really
serious about working there.
When
you add up the impact of those eight contacts, I believe it has to be at least
40 times the impact of a resume alone. Let’s face it, most resumes are not well
written, and they have little impact. Rarely does a person read a resume and
say, “We’ve got to have that person.” When an employer speaks to a potential
employee, however, and the person is self-confident and enthusiastic, and
follows up by contacting the employer again and again—that has impact.
Tips For Appointments
Your preparation for
appointments will be key. Developing a five- to seven-minute summary of
yourself is especially important. Some appointments consist of genuine
conversation, but if the employer has no openings and wants to keep the meeting
short, he or she is likely to say, “How can I help you?” When you get such a
questions, respond with something like, “Mrs. Klevinger, I really do appreciate
your taking time to meet with me. And I understand that you don’t have any
openings at this time. Perhaps the best thing I can do is simply share my
background and describe some of my strengths. Basically I . . .” Then you’ll
give your summary.
Seven
minutes may seem like a long time to talk nonstop, but it really isn’t. It
gives you just enough time to summarize your work history and education and
then have a couple minutes left to share some strengths. Of course, while you
are describing your work history you should briefly mention some of your
accomplishments. This will give the employer an excellent overview of your
background. It will also allow the employer to ask some questions if he or she
is so inclined.
Often
the employers you meet with will have no questions for you. Assuming a
fifteen-minute appointment, half of your time will be gone when you’ve
completed your monologue. If the person does not ask you to clarify or expand
on anything, you should ask some questions. For instance, you might ask
questions like: “Do you see any expansion in the next six months?” “Do you
think there will be any openings in the next few months?” “When you have
openings, what skills, qualities, and experience are you looking for?”
After
the person has finished answering your questions, your time will be almost up.
You should indicate the appointment is drawing to a close by saying, “Mr.
Klucewski, I don’t want to take up any more of your time. Maybe I should just
summarize what I think my strengths are.” You would then share some of your key
strengths. This would all be part of a two-minute summary you should have
practiced numerous times. In addition to recapping your prepared summary, you
would also cover some of the points the employer mentioned just minutes earlier
in response to your question about desired qualities and skills. Some of the
words you use might be identical to the ones the employer used, some you would
paraphrase. All the while, however, you’d be showing that you possess those
skills and qualities. After sharing your points, you would then thank the
person for the meeting, stand up, and say goodbye. Whenever possible, you
should be the one to terminate the conversation to show that you are a person
of your word: you asked for fifteen minutes and you got your fifteen minutes,
so it’s time for you to leave.
Unless the employer is
truly keeping the conversation going, you should terminate it at the set time.
This is a crucial point. Sometimes conversations go on for an hour, and I’m
sure that, in most cases, the employer gladly gives the additional time. I also
know that sometimes a person walks out the door and the employer is saying,
“She asked for fifteen minutes and she stayed almost 45 minutes. Now I’m really
behind in my work.” No matter how impressive the person was, no matter how well
she sold herself, and no matter how good some of her stories were, this person
will be remembered primarily as the one who did not keep her word.
The
way to avoid this potential problem is to be aware of time. If you sense time
is drawing to a close, you should very deliberately look at your watch. Do it
in an obvious way. By doing so you are demonstrating that you are concerned
about taking too much of this person’s time. One way to do it is to look at
your watch just as you are finishing a sentence. Lift and turn your wrist in an
obvious manner and glance at your watch. Since the employer has been
maintaining eye contact while listening to you, the employer will definitely
notice that you are looking at your watch. And the person will know why.
If
you really are hoping for some additional time, and it appears that the
employer is enjoying the conversation, and perhaps even keeping it alive, you
might say, “Mr. Barratt, I appreciate the time you’ve given me. I did ask for
just fifteen minutes. Do you have an upcoming appointment?” If he wants to
terminate the conversation you have provided a perfect out, with the person
probably saying, “Well, I do need to get back to my project in about five
minutes.” Or, the person may say, “No, that’s fine, I’ve got another fifteen
minutes.”
If
the person is clearly directing and continuing the conversation, then you may
continue past the allotted time. After the appointed time has passed, however,
be very alert for signals that the meeting has gone on long enough. If you
notice the person looking at a clock or watch, looking away as if bored, or
fidgeting, quickly draw your comments to a close and thank the person for the
time.
If
the person begins asking you specific questions about your experience, the
appointment has probably turned from an appointment into an interview. A person
who has no openings and knows there will be no openings in the next few months
will rarely ask those types of questions. One of the few exceptions would be if
the person were considering referring you to someone who has or may have an
opening. In any case, being asked questions is a very positive sign.
The
reasons why an employer would ask you questions include: 1) The person has no
openings but likes you and will offer you an interview if something opens up;
2) the person intends to refer you to others if he learns of openings; 3) the
person is thinking of creating a position in a few months and may move that
date up if a really capable person comes along; 4) the person thinks someone is
about to quit; 5) the person is considering firing someone, but may do so only
if the replacement is ready to be hired; 6) the person is always looking for
people who can make money or solve problems for him.
During
your appointment, do your best to get the employer involved in a true
conversation. The more involved the person is, the more likely the person will
want to talk beyond the requested ten or fifteen minutes.
Using Your Resume During
Appointments
Take
several copies of your resume with you to appointments. If the interviewer
already has a copy, don’t assume she has read it or remembers any of its
contents. Avoid such statements as, “Well, as you can see in my resume,
I . . .” She’ll start fumbling around with the resume looking for
that point and will be distracted from what you’re actually saying. Feel free
to discuss points that are in the resume, but talk in the same way you would if
the person had never seen your resume.
Since
employers will often ask for your resume, have one handy. Personally, I like to
see someone’s resume at the beginning of an appointment. In two minutes I can
learn what might otherwise require ten minutes. If your time has drawn to a
close, and the person has not asked for your resume, hand it to the employer as
you leave saying: “Thanks for taking the time to see me, Mrs. Castor, you’ve
been very helpful. Let me give you a copy of my resume in case anything should
develop.” If nothing else, now the employer will know how to contact you. If
you made a favorable impression, she will probably keep your resume in a
special folder at her desk. If a position does open up, your resume will be
reviewed before the dozens of mediocre resumes she has seen. Your resume will
bring to mind the favorable impression you created while meeting face-to-face.
A top-quality resume continues to work for months after you’ve handed it to a
potential employer.
Some
people prefer not to take a resume with them so they can send a customized
resume the following day. They customize their resumes based on any knowledge
picked up during the conversation. I’m not necessarily recommending this
approach, but it has worked well for those who use it. If you intend to
customize your resume, and the employer asks for a copy, simply indicate that
you did not bring one with you, but that you would be glad to send one the
following day.
Referrals
At
the end of each appointment, you should seek referrals unless you were
interviewing for a known position or you believe a position may come up
shortly. If you impressed the employer, he will be more than ready to do you a
small favor.
You
might try asking for referrals in the following ways:
You:
Mr. Sanders, I really appreciate your taking time to see me today. Perhaps you
could do one more favor for me. I’d like to leave my resume with you, and if
anything would develop within Xytex, or if you hear of anything in another
organization, please let me know. Can you think of any other organization I
should contact?
v
You: Mrs. Bell, I really enjoyed our chat today and I appreciate the
time you’ve given me. In my research I’ve identified eight other organizations
that I’d like to work for and I’ve gotten the names of the people I think I
should be contacting. Do you know any of these people? (show your list)
Bell: I know Johnson and Coleman.
You: Could you give me just a quick sketch of both of them?
Taking Notes
Have
a notepad handy when you have an appointment or interview. That way you’ll be
ready if the person you’re meeting with refers you to someone or suggests an article
to read. Although I generally recommend that people not take notes during an
appointment, you can do so if you maintain good eye contact with the person and
write your notes as unobtrusively as possible.
As
soon as you get back to your car you should jot down some notes while the
appointment is still fresh in your mind. Your notes might cover these points:
1. The organization: needs, problems, size,
plans, growth, etc.